Exchange e-mails with a member of a church in the Philippines (who believes the New Jerusalem is now on earth in Davao City, the Philippines).
John Sun:
The Greatest Miracle since God’s Creations (from the Book of Genesis) to the end of this world based on the Words of God are the Two Resurrections (Revelation 20:4-15).
Every one believes in God and looking forward to Eternal Life MUST read this segment of the Bible VERY CAREFULLY (repeatedly as many times as necessary).
The sequence of event is also important. The New Jerusalem will come down from heaven AFTER the TWO RESURRECTIONS (in Revelation 21), not today’s Davao in the Philippines.
On the other hand, do the people in Davao now living forever and no more death there? whether spiritually or physically in transformed bodies like Jesus NOW (after His Resurrection)?
In 2 Peter 3:10-13 stated that this world and its belongings will be Cremated Completely and nothing here on earth will last forever. Any Words and Belief different from the original Words of God can only be seen as “Human Doctrines” (i.e. Catholics believe Mary was the mother of God, they ignore John 3:13 and believe Mary is now in heaven, they also believe that once a person – a church member died, he/she goes to heaven right away, they changed the date of worship from the Sabbath Day to Sunday and called it the ‘Lord’s Day’, Build statues inside and outside their churches etc. etc. – against the Second and the Fourth Commandments).
One thing for sure, God’s Words do not change, from the beginning to the end. That is the reason why Jesus, being God and was born as a man to CREATE the WAY, so that His True Followers (Note Matthew 7:21-23, John 6:37-40) will follow Him in the First Resurrection (Revelation 20:5) and the Rapture ( 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17).
Lets give All the Glory to the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End, the Alpha and the Omega, the Holy One of Israel and Jesus Christ – the God Almighty.
Let us looking forward to meet each other inside the Father’s House (John 14:2-4) by sharing the key (Matthew 7:21-23 with NO EXCEPTION) and to secure an accommodation for each one of us there.
CA: John 4;24 God is Sprit, They that worship Him must worship in Spirit and in truth. Interpretation of the Word of God must be interpreted Spiritually first. In Matt.6:10 Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. If thy will of God is being done on earth. Rev, 21:1-2-3. New Jerusalem will come down from heaven not physical but Spiritual New Jerusalem. God will not destroy this planet earth where we are now. God will create a New World means new system. Organization of Sons and daughters obedience to the Father’s Will. The repented people. Thank you God loves you. This is what The Almighty Father want us to be…..
CA: Resurrections to all his creation, Newness of our life. We must be a new creature once we accept God as our Savior and Lord. No serpent seed, No human will, sometimes,we are god of ourselves.The only thing that God want us is to obey His Will. Nothing else.
CA: WILL OF THE ALMIGHTY FATHER. 1. Love God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind and with all your strength. Love your neighbor, Love your enemy. Doing things that are not good in the sight of our Almighty father.
John Sun:
1) The Bible did not say there are two New Jerusalems or there is a difference in a Spiritual New Jerusalem or a Physical New Jerusalem. There is only ONE New Jerusalem which had also been prophesied in Isaiah 65:17-18, 66:22.
2) Jesus taught His disciples how to pray in Matthew 6:10 as Lucifer and his followers had been cast on earth (this world). That is the reason why before the Devil will be thrown into the Lake of Fire, he has great power on earth. In Chapter 4 of Matthew, obviously, the Devil challenged Jesus. He even offered material wealth in this world if Jesus bend down on him. In John 17, Jesus prayed that both His disciples and Himself do not belong to this world.
3) If the people and this world is not sinful, Jesus would not need to come down from heaven (John 6:38) and to create the WAY (John 14:6) to defeat Satan (the Devil).
4) You cannot deny the Words Written in 2 Peter 3:10-13 or trying to make alterations to the Bible. There were many people attempted or already made changes to the Bible, that is definitely “Disobeying the Father in Heaven” (Matthew 7:21-23).
John Sun:
Lets focus on one Important Issue. Are we obeying the Father? Yes or No?
CA:
Jerusalem, or the nation of Israel as a whole is oftentimes personified as a woman symbolizes the womb, the land or the source where the seed can be implanted. The Spirit of the old Jerusalem. It is a known spiritual fact that everyone who is born in the flesh possesses the spirit of disobedience to the Almighty Father. As the descendants of Adam and Eve propagated, so does the progeny of the serpent seed, Jerusalem, which God’s beloved wife, has turned to idols, committed fornication and become the harlot. Isaiah 1:21 Jeremiah 23:14 Ezekiel 16:29-33
CA:
Yes, we are obeying the Father’s will.
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God search a New bride because of her unfaithfulness and perpetual backsliding, the Almighty Father turned to a new people, to begin His plan of setting up His Spiritual household. The old Jerusalem failed to bring forth the fruits that the Father has required of her. Ref, Hosea 10:1 Matt. 21:43 Romans 9:8
John Sun:
While we are discussing about the “New Jerusalem”, we should focus on this topic only, at least for the time being and not kicking the ball off the court by mentioning how God the Father was not happy with the Jews.
New Jerusalem is the Ultimate Promised Land – it will descend from heaven, after the two resurrections and the millennium (see Revelation 20 and 21). It is definitely not Davao City, the Philippines today. It is a place where can accommodate ‘billions of people’ not only a few hundred thousand.
You have brought up the relationship between God the Father and the Jews in the old days or the stage of the Old Covenant – and with the promised land – Canaan. And, when no one could perfect the law. However, you must agree that God has forgiven ALL their sins through the New Covenant in Jeremiah 31:31-34. In particular, verse 34 – God promises to give His forgiveness of ALL sins of the Jews and not to remember their sins any more. Therefore, there is no indication that God has ignore or forget about the Jews.
In Romans 11:25-32, when the gentile numbers are met, all the Jews will be saved. Again, God does not change His Words. What He had promised Abraham and Jacob, He will fulfill it, even the Jews have not accepted Jesus over the past 2000 years.
It is no use to debate about the Jews as God did open the door for the gentile as well. This has been stated in detail in the Book of Acts, especially in the statements of Paul and Peter.
If any one changes the Word of God, he/she is not obeying the Father as per Matthew 7:21-23.
Only in the last generation, there are more and more descendants of Jacob accepting Jesus as their Messiah and Savior (Matthew 23:37-39, 24:32-35 Special Note to Verse 34, Jeremiah 24:1-10). Babylon in Jeremiah 24 refers to this entire world we are living in. Not necessarily the people who live in Israel are the descendants of Jacob as they only represent a very small portion of Jacob’s descendants.
Hope the pictures are clear now. In any event, it is NOT wise to change the Words of God or to introduce Human Wisdom and Belief when they contradicting against the Words of God.
CA:
In your reference given.rev. 20;4-15 In the Kingdom law encompass all people. In the sight of the father, there are no ttooist, buddhist or muslim. All men will one day face the Father in Judgment minus all lavels of religion, for these are just creations of man in going back to the Father, All men will stand in judgment in the sight of God as a plain human being.
CA:
Believing and obedience to the Father’s will. If you believe that New Jerusalem will come down from heaven in form of land . Its your belief. Day of the Lord began April 13,2005 as revealed by the Father through His Appointed Son. Judgment is now going on.
John Sun:
There is no judgment pending for true believers of Jesus.
CA:
Heaven will pass away, means your system or belief that if you believe in your doctrine that will bring you to heaven. belief or system. will pass away but his word will not pass away. not a real heaven that will melt. earth means you people believing your doctrine will pass away.
CA:
Resurrection means… people who surrendered and repented and eradicating their human will or evils ways and doing the will of the Father as in John 3:5Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John Sun:
No. Resurrection will apply to those who died. Those alive will be lifted up to meet Jesus. God will live among His true believers. After the first resurrection man will have transformed bodies like Jesus after His resurrection.
CA:
People who are obedience to the Father’s will are resurrected. They buried the old ways and they are now new creations. The un repented people will falls on Matt. 7:21.
John Sun:
The first resurrection has not taken place yet. See Revelation 20.5.
CA:
Rapture, If you are doing the will of the Father . wherever you are . your are spiritually raptured to the New Jerusalem.
CA:
If that is your belief, what can I do, right go go..
John Sun:
I didn’t create any doctrine. I simply follow 100 percent the Words of God in the bible. God already told me where He will put me when He talked to me 16 years ago.
CA:
We cannot agree what we believe. we have the freedom of choice. Thank you John and Good night.
CA:
While we are still on this earth. we know it already where we should go. through physical death or thru glorification. two places.. heaven or hell.
John Sun:
There are different positions in the Father’s House. The Resurrected Jesus foretold the rewards in Revelation 2 and 3. In my case, He talked to me many times. My work is in the preparation for His Second Coming (to this world). Quite different from John the Baptist who was preparing for His First coming. I did author His book (written based on His revelations, guidance and instructions) which was being prophesied 2,600 years ago. The WAY to New Jerusalem had already been created by God, the Narrow Gate has also been told in detail (the New Testament). And, the choice is in man, not God.
CA:
The Almighty Father Jesus Christ is now here. He will not come in His Jewish body. remember that God is Spirit. You can not see nor touch it. but you can hear it through His word. He has already the temple. The Almighty Father ,as a Spirit, spoke in an audible voice through his son. How can we become a son? Accept God, believe in His word, submit our evil ways or eradicating our human will. we must be born again, by baptism in water and of Spirit. Do the will of the Almighty Father. Live His Word. Can I ask you. the verses that God is in Persons.
CA:
Can you share to me your interpretation of the verses found in Exodus 20:4-5 and Jeremiah 10:1-13. as you said that 100% the words of God in the Bible. Thank you.
CA:
Praise the Almighty Father for being one of God chosen to be with Him in the paradise.
John Sun:
Ha. Ha. Ha. I am not ready for Paradise yet! “Paradise” is the waiting room for those true believers of Jesus who died (Luke 23:43), waiting for the First Resurrection. I am still living in this sinful world, for now (the second half of my life) as Jesus told me in the afternoon on February 15, 1996.
CA:
Even though we are living in this world. but we are not of this world.
CA:
I will introduce to you another interpretation of resurrection means rise up. A natural man, alive hears the word of God , he believe and accept the words and do it. He is resurrected. Why? That man is dead in the sight of God. His Spirit is dead. His body is the grave. even , he is alive, So when he hears the word of God, believe, accept and do it. He is resurrected from the grave. He is now alive in the sight of God. He is not dead anymore.
John Sun:
No. I can’t agree with you. Firstly, Jesus was resurrected and He created The Way. He has a transformed body. And, He is not going to die again. He is already in heaven. Believers of Jesus will have Eternal Life just like Jesus. No more death.
John Sun:
AND TO LIVE IN THE FATHER’S HOUSE.
John Sun:
Imaginations are imaginations. I did see Jesus and I also saw the Peace in Eternal Life.
John Sun:
I wanted to go there but was sent back to this world.
John Sun:
Therefore, Eternal Life is for Real. Not imagination.
CA:
If you live His words, We saw Jesus Christ in you.
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Eternal life. IS not imagination but it’s real
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Real to those who live his words.